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		<title>Comment on What do atheists do for Christmas? by shaunphilly</title>
		<link>http://shaunphilly.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/what-do-atheists-do-for-christmas/#comment-1922</link>
		<dc:creator>shaunphilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>misinforming them about what? Do you disagree with my ideas or how I go about talking about them? I have NEVER claimed to be any official voice of anything.  I only speak for myself.  Brian only does the same thing; he speaks for himself.  

WTF is your problem?

I will not discuss aspects of other people&#039;s private life on this blog, at least not without their knowing about it and not minding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misinforming them about what? Do you disagree with my ideas or how I go about talking about them? I have NEVER claimed to be any official voice of anything.  I only speak for myself.  Brian only does the same thing; he speaks for himself.  </p>
<p>WTF is your problem?</p>
<p>I will not discuss aspects of other people&#8217;s private life on this blog, at least not without their knowing about it and not minding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Polyamory and Pagan Woo by shaunphilly</title>
		<link>http://shaunphilly.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/polyamory-and-pagan-woo/#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>shaunphilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you really nailed me.  I had not known precisely who was behind the movie.  Yeah, I really fell for it.  I have to admit that you got me.  

wow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you really nailed me.  I had not known precisely who was behind the movie.  Yeah, I really fell for it.  I have to admit that you got me.  </p>
<p>wow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Polyamory and Pagan Woo by Tomkinson</title>
		<link>http://shaunphilly.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/polyamory-and-pagan-woo/#comment-1920</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I thank you for giving me the happy news. I&#039;ve donated to JREF many times (for I do &#039;useful&#039; things with my atheism) and if this holds out GREAT, the last newsletter I got had dismal news about the 1,000,000 challenge. But it should have been obvious to you Shaun about &quot;What the Bleep do We Know&quot; was a joke. Here is the most relevant BT post (from you to me):

&quot;Well, I was unaware of the cult behind the movie before you brought it up (although I was familiar, somewhat, with John Hagelin). I was actually thinkng of seeing the movie as I see most movies, at home for free off of our network.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I thank you for giving me the happy news. I&#8217;ve donated to JREF many times (for I do &#8216;useful&#8217; things with my atheism) and if this holds out GREAT, the last newsletter I got had dismal news about the 1,000,000 challenge. But it should have been obvious to you Shaun about &#8220;What the Bleep do We Know&#8221; was a joke. Here is the most relevant BT post (from you to me):</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I was unaware of the cult behind the movie before you brought it up (although I was familiar, somewhat, with John Hagelin). I was actually thinkng of seeing the movie as I see most movies, at home for free off of our network.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on What do atheists do for Christmas? by Tomkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While some of the raw facts were relatively close to true, your interpretation of the putting together of those facts was not.&quot;

So your saying my posts here, on this topic,  are exegetical?  WTF? Either my facts are incorrect or they are not, I would hope a militant atheist could appreciate that. I mentioned nothing about Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennet, Harris, here sow why bring them up? BTW I&#039;ve met each of them at least twice (save Dennet, I met once) our assessments disagree. But that doesn&#039;t matter on this specific post.

You are misinforming people Shaun that is why I am on you.  And what motivates me is that you are misinforming people while pretending to be to the official public face of atheism. Cutler is even worse on that score and I will fight both of you. 

I&#039;ve saved your response to my last post i.e. not letting Cutler off the hook and might consider using it in the future.

Either I am right or am wrong (logic NO?) of I am wrong correct me. If I am right rethink (NO?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While some of the raw facts were relatively close to true, your interpretation of the putting together of those facts was not.&#8221;</p>
<p>So your saying my posts here, on this topic,  are exegetical?  WTF? Either my facts are incorrect or they are not, I would hope a militant atheist could appreciate that. I mentioned nothing about Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennet, Harris, here sow why bring them up? BTW I&#8217;ve met each of them at least twice (save Dennet, I met once) our assessments disagree. But that doesn&#8217;t matter on this specific post.</p>
<p>You are misinforming people Shaun that is why I am on you.  And what motivates me is that you are misinforming people while pretending to be to the official public face of atheism. Cutler is even worse on that score and I will fight both of you. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve saved your response to my last post i.e. not letting Cutler off the hook and might consider using it in the future.</p>
<p>Either I am right or am wrong (logic NO?) of I am wrong correct me. If I am right rethink (NO?)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What do atheists do for Christmas? by shaunphilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaunphilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While some of the raw facts were relatively close to true, your interpretation of the putting together of those facts was not.  I didn&#039;t get upset, I simply thought it was bad taste to say what you did, especially considering you knowledge comes from sources that don&#039;t know what hey are talking about.  There are lots of rumors out there.  Try actually meeting someone and talking to them before you talk about them too much.  

For example, Richard Dawkins has more intelligence, class, and maturity than I have ever seen from you at your best.  The same goes for Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and Chris Hitchens (all of whom I have at least met).  And while I have never met you in person (nor would I really want to), I have seen no indication taht you are superior in any way.  So, take your opinions and write them elsewhere.  Personally, I would prefer you didn&#039;t read this blog at all.  But if you must, please refrain from spreading your pathetic attempt for a point of view.

If you have an issue with Brian Sapient, then contact him about that.  He&#039;ll likely ignore you, as I probably should do as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While some of the raw facts were relatively close to true, your interpretation of the putting together of those facts was not.  I didn&#8217;t get upset, I simply thought it was bad taste to say what you did, especially considering you knowledge comes from sources that don&#8217;t know what hey are talking about.  There are lots of rumors out there.  Try actually meeting someone and talking to them before you talk about them too much.  </p>
<p>For example, Richard Dawkins has more intelligence, class, and maturity than I have ever seen from you at your best.  The same goes for Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and Chris Hitchens (all of whom I have at least met).  And while I have never met you in person (nor would I really want to), I have seen no indication taht you are superior in any way.  So, take your opinions and write them elsewhere.  Personally, I would prefer you didn&#8217;t read this blog at all.  But if you must, please refrain from spreading your pathetic attempt for a point of view.</p>
<p>If you have an issue with Brian Sapient, then contact him about that.  He&#8217;ll likely ignore you, as I probably should do as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Polyamory and Pagan Woo by ShaunPhilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShaunPhilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of bringing up the jref challenge is that it has existed for a long time and nobody has passed it.   And it will not be ending.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/jref-news/640-million-dollar-challenge-update-its-not-ending.html

I don&#039;t remember that you schooled me about anything.  I think you are confusing me with someone else.  The first time I heard about What the Bleep... was from a fan of the movie.  I subsequently educated myself and never fell for it.  Perhaps at first I just didn&#039;t know what it was, but I never fell for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of bringing up the jref challenge is that it has existed for a long time and nobody has passed it.   And it will not be ending.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/jref-news/640-million-dollar-challenge-update-its-not-ending.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/jref-news/640-million-dollar-challenge-update-its-not-ending.html</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember that you schooled me about anything.  I think you are confusing me with someone else.  The first time I heard about What the Bleep&#8230; was from a fan of the movie.  I subsequently educated myself and never fell for it.  Perhaps at first I just didn&#8217;t know what it was, but I never fell for it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Polyamory and Pagan Woo by Tomkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In an age of Twilight, Oprah, and the liberal love of spirituality mixed with pseudoscience, it is sometimes difficult to be a skeptic without sometimes feeling cynical.&quot;

Why shouldn&#039;t you be cynical Shaun. You are cavorting with flakes in a world where the AVERAGE person can&#039;t name a single justice on the supreme court let alone engage in a serious discussion about philosophy.

&quot;I wonder how bad our educational system is in terms of preparing people for scientific literacy.  I wonder how people can swallow such idiotic crap without even trying to question it skeptically.&quot;

Whats to wonder about? Most of our species are essentially highly trainable animals. You can&#039;t blame anything on education. If you have even a scrap of a brain today you will educate yourself. 

By the way you make several throw-away claims that are in need of refinement.For example the JREF still offers the million dollar prize but it will be discontinued next year.  And by the way Shaun, you yourself were taken in by &quot;What the bleep do we know?&quot; at least initially. I had to school you on it. Remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In an age of Twilight, Oprah, and the liberal love of spirituality mixed with pseudoscience, it is sometimes difficult to be a skeptic without sometimes feeling cynical.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t you be cynical Shaun. You are cavorting with flakes in a world where the AVERAGE person can&#8217;t name a single justice on the supreme court let alone engage in a serious discussion about philosophy.</p>
<p>&#8220;I wonder how bad our educational system is in terms of preparing people for scientific literacy.  I wonder how people can swallow such idiotic crap without even trying to question it skeptically.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whats to wonder about? Most of our species are essentially highly trainable animals. You can&#8217;t blame anything on education. If you have even a scrap of a brain today you will educate yourself. </p>
<p>By the way you make several throw-away claims that are in need of refinement.For example the JREF still offers the million dollar prize but it will be discontinued next year.  And by the way Shaun, you yourself were taken in by &#8220;What the bleep do we know?&#8221; at least initially. I had to school you on it. Remember?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What do atheists do for Christmas? by Tomkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve &quot;talked shit&quot; about you or Brian here. If Brian is still &quot;Brian Sapient&quot; he is still the clown that is an embarrassment to right thinking people everywhere and I have EVERY right to call the idiot on it, for he would do the same, no?

But if I said something that was factually untrue I will gladly except your corrections for I was under the impression that his girlfriend during the Blasphemy Challenge period was Kelly O&#039;Connor who was primarily employed as a stripper and that Brian was primarily in charge of running the blasphemy challenge i.e. unemployed.  Please correct me if I am wrong. 

And my comments do not &quot;go away&quot;. Unfortunately I still have to live with the disgusting and idiotic statements and exhibitions he has made as I was introduced to the &quot;Blasphemy Challenge&quot; not by you on BT but by a believer that engaged me in conversation. When he described the BC  I declared he could not be correct about it and I said if he were right few atheists would take such a thing seriously. I was wrong.

In fact I would say while the unimpressive and naive works of Dawkins, Harris et al. made me rethink my somewhat aggressive atheism it was the actions of people like Brian that made me realize the &quot;kids&quot; are out of control. 

Interesting how you get upset when I insult someone that is important to you even when I have written nothing that was untrue. Things that make you go HMMM....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve &#8220;talked shit&#8221; about you or Brian here. If Brian is still &#8220;Brian Sapient&#8221; he is still the clown that is an embarrassment to right thinking people everywhere and I have EVERY right to call the idiot on it, for he would do the same, no?</p>
<p>But if I said something that was factually untrue I will gladly except your corrections for I was under the impression that his girlfriend during the Blasphemy Challenge period was Kelly O&#8217;Connor who was primarily employed as a stripper and that Brian was primarily in charge of running the blasphemy challenge i.e. unemployed.  Please correct me if I am wrong. </p>
<p>And my comments do not &#8220;go away&#8221;. Unfortunately I still have to live with the disgusting and idiotic statements and exhibitions he has made as I was introduced to the &#8220;Blasphemy Challenge&#8221; not by you on BT but by a believer that engaged me in conversation. When he described the BC  I declared he could not be correct about it and I said if he were right few atheists would take such a thing seriously. I was wrong.</p>
<p>In fact I would say while the unimpressive and naive works of Dawkins, Harris et al. made me rethink my somewhat aggressive atheism it was the actions of people like Brian that made me realize the &#8220;kids&#8221; are out of control. </p>
<p>Interesting how you get upset when I insult someone that is important to you even when I have written nothing that was untrue. Things that make you go HMMM&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Polyamory and Pagan Woo by Eph Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eph Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, thank you so much for writing this. It&#039;s incredibly frustrating for me, and one of the major reasons I don&#039;t like to accept the &quot;polyamory&quot; label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thank you so much for writing this. It&#8217;s incredibly frustrating for me, and one of the major reasons I don&#8217;t like to accept the &#8220;polyamory&#8221; label.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What do atheists do for Christmas? by shaunphilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaunphilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomkinson,

I don&#039;t mind you talking shit about me, but when you talk about other people on my site it crosses a line, especially when the vast majority of it was untrue.

Brian is a friend.  You really have no idea what you are talking about.  The reason he changed his name has to do with the safety of his family.  Perhaps he has no reason to go by the alias anymore, but that is his business.

Thus, your comment goes away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomkinson,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind you talking shit about me, but when you talk about other people on my site it crosses a line, especially when the vast majority of it was untrue.</p>
<p>Brian is a friend.  You really have no idea what you are talking about.  The reason he changed his name has to do with the safety of his family.  Perhaps he has no reason to go by the alias anymore, but that is his business.</p>
<p>Thus, your comment goes away.</p>
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